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this is not science fiction

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this is science fact it clearly had a

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shape to it and it in a bitch shape

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there's nothing to hide

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there's nothing to hide it all I

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recognize that there is a real

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phenomenon taking place a physical

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phenomenon and not just something in

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people's imagination or hallucinations

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but there's a lot of crazy associated

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with the UFO subject so I wanted to

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focus on one of the first statements I

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generally make is that 95% of all UFOs

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sightings radar cases can and have been

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explained away in down-to-earth

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conventional terms and having said that

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that remaining 5 3 to 5 percent is what

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we focused on without the blue

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late-breaking you're watching news 15 at

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10 do these lights belong to visitors

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from outer space hundreds of people

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across the valley think it's a distinct

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possibility good evening I'm mark Vail

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and I'm Robin Stoll thanks for joining

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us we start tonight with those strange

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dots of light that were the talk of the

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town well you have as a fairly famous

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case 1997 where lots of Arizonans were

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out under the night sky at about 8:00

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8:20 p.m. to get a glimpse of the hell

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Bob comment this is talking March 13th

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so was witnessed by a lot of a lot of

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people it passed right in front of us

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just about right above eyes length

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very large craft flies over the state it

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ends up making international news 5

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assignment in the governor of the time

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had an opportunity at that point to

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really break a very huge story and make

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a big difference in the UFO community or

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the reality to this phenomenon instead

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he calls for an unscheduled press

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conference and has his chief of staff

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dressed in an alien costume and makes a

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joke out of the whole thing so that

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always bothered me right off the bat but

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being a politician I've always

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associated him as someone who's

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unapproachable and I was reading an

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article about a year and a half ago in a

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new and local newspaper about five being

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a pastry chef that he's no longer

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politician I thought huh well maybe now

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after all these years I could approach

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him he he revealed that not only had he

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launched an investigation into you know

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finding out what this craft was but the

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heat to himself saw it and being a

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captain in the Air Force and a pilot it

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was it was he felt in his gut it was

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just otherworldly because because of its

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size and the fact that didn't make any

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noise and he said it was just absolutely

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huge I actually played a tape for him of

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one of his former constituents as well

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as a witness to the event because I

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figured who better to put forth a

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question about why he did what he did

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than the person that suffered most from

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it was one of his constituents and a

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witness and I played the tape recorder

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and that sort of loosened him up

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triggered some sort of response openness

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and so he divulged what he divulged to

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me I never felt that the overall

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situation was a matter of ridicule we

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certainly took advantage of it and this

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just goes to show that you guys are

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entirely too serious

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Diddy's tell me that he got a phone call

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from someone in the Pentagon telling him

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to shut the story down no he didn't did

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that happen who knows yeah 140 miles

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north of London is Bentwaters England in

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December of 1980 the united states air

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force base armed with nuclear weapons

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was reportedly the site of a series of

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UFO encounters over a three-day period

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responding to reports of a possible

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downed aircraft three patrolmen were

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sent out to Rendlesham forest to

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investigate airman first class Edward

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Caban zeg was one of the security

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officers present that night we were on a

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security one which was in charge of

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mobile security for the Woodbridge Base

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and we responded to Jim roses sighting

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of something out on the edge of the

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flight line for the controller on the

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radio broadcast over the air that go

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down and check out a possible year

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overall it was a bunch of security

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officers responsible for the c4 you know

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the security of nuclear weapons during

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the Cold War so these aren't just some

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fuzzy-headed touchy-feely military guys

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I mean they're very serious people you

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have three guys approached this craft

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one guy gets too scared cap and sac

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decides to stay between the craft and

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the base and act like a relay as a relay

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for the radios because there was a lot

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of radio interference and the two guys

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go out to the craft and the whole

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concent perception of time was was

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slightly altered and you know it was a

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very ethereal sort of surreal experience

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for both of them at the point in time

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three of us had

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observation over the craft the closer we

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would get to it we would lose

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communication you know with central

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security control it was a shape kind of

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like a almost like a pyramid kind of

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shaped you know just completely silent

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he was warm to the touch he said and

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then of course he describes the symbols

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that were on the side of the craft he

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inspected the craft and he was there too

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and I told him I said that was very

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brave of you to walk up to this thing

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and touch it and if my job was

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determined whether or not it posed a

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threat to our base and there was oh I

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say measured probably about nine feet

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maybe six feet high low higher made

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maybe six and a half feet this was a up

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close and personal encounter with a

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landed UFO and with symbols on the craft

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and you know interviewed the all the

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eyewitnesses but listening to him to her

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on the ground investigation for 45

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minutes with his logbook which he still

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has to this day the symbols on the craft

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and describing how the craft lifted back

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off maneuvered through the trees and

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shut off at a high rate of speed and

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cooperated from the deputy base

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commander who's a colonel and you know

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and the two other you know men that were

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with him that night

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that is one of the most compelling UFO

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stories I've ever heard because he

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touched it it's not like he saw the

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photograph that or heard about it he

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actually touched it on March 16 1967

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lieutenant colonel Salas was on duty

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when he was contacted by his topside

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guard stating that there was an

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unidentified object above the missile

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site Salas ordered the guard to observe

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and report back on any further

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development that he called back within a

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few minutes and was very frightened I

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could tell by his voice he was extremely

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agitated he said there was an object

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hovering outside the front came a

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reddish orange oval-shaped

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object well there seems to be a pattern

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of interest in our military capabilities

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nuclear capabilities a bit of a number

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of cases that we put forward and out of

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the blue were like melts from Air Force

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Base where a UFO was spotted at the same

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time their Minuteman missiles or go into

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a no-go situation to shut them down

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or if they went out together our

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missiles went into no-go condition one

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after the other we lost nearly 20

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missiles that morning so whatever is

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going on it appears to have an interest

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they appear to be have an interest in

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our nuclear capabilities and I always

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use the analogy perhaps it's like

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someone taking the matches out of the

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hands of a baby or some you know

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something but that seems to be a pattern

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that's happened in 1965 Gordon Cooper

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was the last American astronaut to go up

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into space alone he orbited the planet

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22 times when I interviewed Gordon

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Cooper I actually took my father with me

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Charles Fox was it was a mainstream

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journalist he's written for every

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publication on and he was always very

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reluctant and and one of the things he

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said to me was that I got involved with

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my son's interest in UFOs with a very

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distinct sense of paternal obligation

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and there was you know initially he was

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thinking god I can't believe James is

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getting involved with this and one of

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the turning points for him as a

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mainstream journalist and knowing Gordon

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Cooper as an American icon and a hero

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was sitting down in that interview and

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listening to him talk about you know

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what what his his experience with with

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UFOs he was supervising the filming of a

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precision landing facility for f-86

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fighter jets

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suddenly a saucer-like craft flew

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directly over the cameraman three

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landing gear apparatus open and the

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object landed on the dry lake bed

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mystical sounds are said the double

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integral shape metallic and then without

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picked up their cameras and moved on

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that Floridian filming and he left it

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all put the gear back in the world find

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out how it's being this apparent Cooper

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himself saw the footage had the footage

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developed saw the footage held it up to

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the light and said it was frame by frame

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it was perfectly clear you know InFocus

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footage of a flying saucer sitting on

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the dry lake bed had a courier jet

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flying from Washington take the footage

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off the Washington DC never heard of

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scene from ever again that was it and I

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asked him in the film did you ever

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follow up with what happened to that

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footage that you handed over and it

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triggered it hit it raw nerve with him

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because he never he was always kind of

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composed and and quiet and it he kind of

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fired back at me he said what am I

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supposed to do how am I supposed to

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follow up on this you know you follow

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orders in the military and and unless

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you have a direct connection with the

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brother you can do so did you keep in

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touch with anybody bother to discuss how

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would I keep in touch with anybody

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matter there's no one even in the

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military within the government or

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keeping track or something that is

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classified

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unless you're directly involved in it

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well I mean this is a speculation on my

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part as to why any government would

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cover this information up and I'll

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reiterate speculation but I would

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imagine if there were structured craft

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of unknown origin that could penetrate

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very sensitive aerospace and and fly

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rings around our fastest jets with

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impunity that no military who we pay

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them to protect us would ever want to

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relinquish that type of information to

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the general public I mean you know we

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keep measuring they're making that

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statement hey there's the structured

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craft I don't know where they come from

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we have no control over them they fly

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around on our secret and private

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aerospace with improv impunity and thank

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you and good night

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I mean III can't imagine why they would

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disclose that type of information there

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is a serious possibility that we are

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being visited and have been visited for

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many years by people from outer space

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from other civilizations since the

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subject is clearly of great interests of

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public I think that the senator

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community owes it to the public to

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really pay attentions of subject and

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make a thorough extensive and careful

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investigation a story this big there's

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no way it could be kept secret from the

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public what do you say to someone like

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that

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well some say it's a very significant

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story it's a difficult story to walk

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away from you know once you're involved

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with it as much as as Iban or you that

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you are now it's like you recognize some

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truth you speak hypothetically to people

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and they all say to you categorically

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wow it would be with the greatest

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discovery of our time and yet they're

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not willing to look at the evidence to

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realize that this is actually going on

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this information is being kept from us

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and that you know it quite honestly it

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pissed me off

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you know and that's what would draw our

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driving force behind me is that is that

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I don't think it's fair that that

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information is kept for a select few and

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not share with the world

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the discovery that we are being visited

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by extraterrestrials would be one of the

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greatest a human history

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such a discovery would profoundly alter

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the perception of ourselves and our

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place in the universe